ARFC B 13 (Ends November 12, 18:00 GMT) DiamondsAndRust

[?rjan Flatseth]

Hmm - perhaps it would bee unethical of me to join the contest

Anyway I have done a solution. The urge to brag is strong with me... but so far Im strong enough to resist it...

[darkcatalyst]

Tweaking After Midnight...

Down to 820ish.

And I'm curious to see your solution Orjan, because you always have sick ones...put it with the collection when you post the results.

[ioncorpse]

2darkcatalyst: I'll post every solution by the way...

2Drone_Fragger: I don't realy undestand, you already sent me 2 solutions, but your last one isn't work...so did you forgot something or i should download v1.0.3 (i have v1.0.2) or wait another 5minutes(in your level)?

[darkcatalyst]

You should try the "undo trick."

In my experience, there's two different "levels" of the bug that exist.

(1) The first level is solved by simply adding a random object (metal bar, cloth piece, etc) to anywhere in the level, hitting play, then stop, then undo, then play again. Afterwards, the solution should work.

(2) The second level of the bug requires you to attach the random object to an actual part of the solution. So, do the same as above exept attach the superfluous piece to the thrower or catcher, play, stop, undo, and play again. The solution will work.

I still don't understand what determines the difference between the two levels, but if you follow the steps in (2), you should be able to get anything to work again.

And yeah, I forgot that although this is Orjan's level, he didn't win the last competition. So in my opinion, I think it's cool if he competes. The only advantage designing a level will give you is that of of time, so as long as the designer didn't spend hours testing it before submission, no harm done. Plus I don't think Orjan needs to cheat like that, since he's perfectly capable of coming up with the winning solution a couple hours afer the level is posted (as evidenced by the solutions he sends me right after I post my levels).

So, I guess we should see a show of hands. Is anyone against him competing?

Oh, and I've cracked the -800 barrier.

[mark_man]

Oh, and I've cracked the -800 barrier.

As have I.

[?rjan Flatseth]

of course

[Drone_Fragger]

I'm not on mah Armadillo-running PC atm, but I think I got it down to 864. More tweaking is needed. I'm sure I can think of some way to cut down on the amount of clothspam and metal sheets held up with metal bars :O

[Drone_Fragger]

-772 now. From some hard tweaking and a lot of luck.

[mark_man]

-772 now. From some hard tweaking and a lot of luck.

You got me, I'm out at 784 tweaked for hours and only managed a 4 points gain.I will submit all the same

[Drone_Fragger]

Y'know the funny thing, I could still probebly tweak this one down to 740 if I tried hard. Theres a lot of stuff I could substitute in there...
edit:

I just swapped one thing around and saved 18 dollars. -754 ftw.

[mark_man]

you just seen me right off .TY you saved my some time

[Drone_Fragger]

I think I'm doing this level in a way that possiblyno one else has thought of :O

[dudiobugtron]

I think I'm doing this level in a way that possiblyno one else has thought of :O

I can tell by ?rjan's smirks that he thought of something tricky - I also thought of a nasty plot but I don't know whether it should be allowed (althought technically it doesn't break any rules.)

I think all three of us are on a similar wavelength. Or atleast I am.

[mark_man]

Going out of bounds should be considered dark IMO

[?rjan Flatseth]

Stuff moves in mysterious ways...
750-