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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:15 am
by dudiobugtron
n.fav wrote:I don't really understand what is "welding", I post what I think it is but I may be wrong.


Those two photos are good ones to use to talk about welding
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The one on the left does use metal bars holding each other up in some odd way. The two pieces are just touching each other - they aren't connected or overlapping. This is a technique known as 'resting on', and is different from welding, because the pieces aren't 'stuck' together

The key aspect of welding is that the two pieces being 'welded' together actually have to cross over each other, or intersect. in the picture on the right, the rubber in the middle is being held up by the node at the bottom, and in turn it's endpoints are holding the end rubber bit in place.

Both of these techniques rely on the fact that endpoints of materials can't pass through other materials (in the same 'plane')

PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:29 am
by .ch
I'm so close to completeing number three. I'll continue on it tomorrow. (it's 10:25 now at Louisiana, USA. I don't know what time it is at Europe).

PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:34 am
by PeterT
It's 5:30 here in central europe... sleep sounds like a good idea ;)

Great explanation of the welding and "resting on" techniques dudio!

PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:34 am
by n.fav
Ok I understand now, thanks. :)

This method is indeed very good and lead to cheaper things for sure!
As a newbie, I don't think of it spontaneously yet, but I'm starting...

PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:58 am
by PeterT
10k+
Finally I can sleep Image

PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:37 am
by Grale
So is welding regarded as a darkside trick ? that rubber catcher can't be eligable for light side :!: can it?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:44 am
by dudiobugtron
Grale wrote:So is welding regarded as a darkside trick ? that rubber catcher can't be eligable for light side :!: can it?

Welding is AOK - although it is a pretty odd bug, I agree. It's a case of whether it spoils or enhances the gameplay, and I think welding is a good trick to have for 'advanced players'.

I thought I was awesome getting over 10k but Peter beat me to it!

Not looking forward to tweaking these puppies :cry:

PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:00 am
by n.fav
PeterT wrote:10k+
Finally I can sleep Image


LOL I made it too! the 10k+! :twisted:

This barrier was so much attractive...

PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:10 pm
by ?rjan Flatseth
10k? Bluffing is not your best skill, I tells ya! 8)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:28 am
by kingofthespill
Solutions are beginning to roll in and I am seeing some new 8) ideas. I am glad this format is working out :D . More than using restricted materials, I think three different challenges added together makes for a broader test of skill.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:44 am
by dudiobugtron
kingofthespill wrote:More than using restricted materials, I think three different challenges added together makes for a broader test of skill.

I agree, although I think in this particular competition the emphasis is much more on the third level - for eg, finding a way to do without 1 piece of rubber nets you $100, whereas getting rid of a metal bar in level 2 gives you only $10.

I am almost certain that the winner will be the person with the cheapest level 3 - the other two levels are just tie-breakers.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:54 am
by kingofthespill
Yeah, it would be better with altered material costs.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:46 pm
by rixtim
OMG iam so outa my depth i cant even do the first one !!!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:51 pm
by n.fav
I have a problem...I'm changing my internet connection and tomorrow it cuts for about 10 days...
So I can't participate to this contest and that's a pity really, I've got the 10K+!
When PeterT said he did it, I tweaked to hell to reach it myself...
At the same time I really want to show Orjan I'm not bluffing, so... what can I do?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:59 pm
by Malco
Ive decided that I really dont like rubber as a structural element, my scores way off the pace still cause I cant sort out level 3.

N.Fav submit the level to kingofthespill now and then ?rjan and everyone else will be able to see your soloution on Sunday.