ARF Contest B #XLIV (from 2007-07-04 to 07-11 18:00 GMT)

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Postby ioncorpse » Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:42 am

Yes 7500 isn't the end, it's just a start. :wink:
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Postby Nishimaster » Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:32 pm

I can just about complete the levels nevermind get scores like that :P

72 on the first level, 0 on the second, 2728 on the third.

Total - 2800

I suck :P
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Postby Unw » Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:35 pm

7600+
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Postby McGinge » Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:44 pm

Hmm... The last level is easy essentially its just that getting it cheap could be tough... Although I bet someone has already found out the expected trick!!!
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Postby McGinge » Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:03 pm

Also NickyNick; a question; do you want the levels as .zip files or single levels?
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Postby NickyNick » Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:04 pm

Don't mind about it because Gmail allows to load all attachements in one .zip file :)
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Postby McGinge » Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:08 pm

Ok so ill just send em all as single levels I think... Not that I've finished yet, but I'm pretty sure I have tweaked most of what I can out of this level set!!! Good level set thought Nick!!! Oh and by the way 7726+D
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Postby ioncorpse » Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:10 pm

7777+ Dark. :wink:
Also, I should tell: Unw, you have a lot of creative ideas, but i don't believe that you could tweak your solutions without tweaker, nobody have so much time :cry:
P.S. 7600...........................light...................possible, but I should tweak a little bit.
P.S.S. At least 2 players have an ArmdillloBot, i don't like bots, cause it isn't fare, but we still have league C and sometimes legue B. :oops:
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Postby McGinge » Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:15 pm

Unw has a tweaker?? :? :shock:
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Postby luka1222 » Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:24 pm

you guys are probly gona turn around and tell me im stupid for being up on all this programin stuff but what is a tweaker and what is a bot, i gaver they are cheaty type things but what exactly
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Postby Ikerous » Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:35 pm

luka1222 wrote:you guys are probly gona turn around and tell me im stupid for being up on all this programin stuff but what is a tweaker and what is a bot, i gaver they are cheaty type things but what exactly

A bot is a program that you can set to tweak the solutions for you until it finds a working solution.
Making one for AR wouldn't be too difficult, but seriously? Who wants to cheat at a game like AR?
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Postby luka1222 » Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:38 pm

no way, so whos got these thats just freakin rubbish, i mean whats the point.

i mean seriously thats the stupidest thing ive ever herd of, getting a computer to play the game for you, why......................
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Postby NickyNick » Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:50 pm

McGinge wrote:Unw has a tweaker?? :? :shock:

I have a tweaker too. It isn't automatic bot but powerful stuff for creating balanced catchers. Sometimes it becomes very boring and bad for eyes (when you peer into monitor trying to move node on very insignificant distance), so I wrote a program for node micro-management. As I said I'll fix some bugs and post it soon.

edit: I don't think that we need AR bot. It will definitely kill the game, so let's stop on AR tweakers (micro-tweaker can't help you if you have lack of creativity but can save your time and health).
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Postby Unw » Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:55 pm

it's not like i participate in each and every competition, so it doesn't take much time. i can't code something on my own therefore i use only what is available on forum (ARedit and speedup).
what i really need is not a tweaker but a tester for my dumb levels :\
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Postby Overlord » Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:53 am

Unw wrote:what i really need is not a tweaker but a tester for my dumb levels :\


Your levels aren't dumb, I like them. It's just that one needs a lot of brainpower to solve and win your level, and your proofs of concept usually score higher than the winner(s). :?

And I've made a very primitive tweaker that tweaks by moving one node around its movable area (all x and y coords that the node can have). Then it tests the level and Sleep()'s until it's solved. I've never used it, because I need to hard-code the coords and Sleep time and then recompile the program for every new level.
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