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[dudiobugtron]

see cheesecake thats a better debate to have, is it a cake or some sort of pie?

Or maybe, pie is just a sort of cake anyway. Mmmm, mince and cheesecake.

[luka1222]

no see you could never call a chicken pie a cake, same as you could never call an ice bun a pie. so they cant be the same thing. it seems to me that a pie has a pastry exterior filled with luvly goodness, so cheese cake could be a pie

[dudiobugtron]

a pie has a pastry exterior filled with luvly goodness, so cheese cake could be a pie

Actually, a cheesecake has a cookie base, not a pastry base.

However, I think they should make apricot pie etc... with a cookie base. Damn that would be nice.

[mark_man]

My wife loves a good muffin

[dudiobugtron]

OK, I am now convinced; according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheesecake:

"A cheesecake is a sweet, cheese-based pie"

[luka1222]

AH HA! I KNEW IT

MARKMAN YOU DIRTY OLD MAN

[mark_man]

Hairy pie LOL

[?rjan Flatseth]

I see there are many good views about the dark/light issue here. Unfortunaly I have not much time to take part of the debate right now. I think there may be reasons to give Ioncorpse a bedal too, as he had had the same score without the bar that he thought necessarily to make it light.

[mark_man]

Back on topic .I think the medal went to the wrong person the rules state you are not to explode parts and as it was an active part of the solution weather it affected the outcome or not then as stated by the rule it would have to be deemed dark.So yes an additional medal would be an answer in this one.

In sport we have referees judges etc .These people have varying interpretations of the rules to some degree and the also have to decide one way or another the outcome of a infringement/goal etc.


So what i think I'm trying to say is we know the rules we play by them but in the end of the day the final decision has to be down to the comp runner and his interpretation on the day. IMO

[luka1222]

Back on topic .I think the medal went to the wrong person the rules state you are not to explode parts and as it was an active part of the solution weather it affected the outcome or not then as stated by the rule it would have to be deemed dark.So yes an additional medal would be an answer in this one.

In sport we have referees judges etc .These people have varying interpretations of the rules to some degree and the also have to decide one way or another the outcome of a infringement/goal etc.


So what i think I'm trying to say is we know the rules we play by them but in the end of the day the final decision has to be down to the comp runner and his interpretation on the day. IMO

i agree,

but not the hairy part

[dudiobugtron]

Back on topic .I think the medal went to the wrong person the rules state you are not to explode parts and as it was an active part of the solution weather it affected the outcome or not then as stated by the rule it would have to be deemed dark.So yes an additional medal would be an answer in this one

I think that if the rules say that exploding something by overlapping endpoints (even if it doesn't help you!) is always dark, then I think the rules should be changed.
However I don't agree that the rules mean that.


Your ref analogy is good though. Maybe we need louder appeals!!!

[mark_man]

Back on topic .I think the medal went to the wrong person the rules state you are not to explode parts and as it was an active part of the solution weather it affected the outcome or not then as stated by the rule it would have to be deemed dark.So yes an additional medal would be an answer in this one

I think that if the rules say that exploding something by overlapping endpoints (even if it doesn't help you!) is always dark, then I think the rules should be changed.
However I don't agree that the rules mean that.


Your ref analogy is good though. Maybe we need louder appeals!!!

Taken from the rules :-exploding pieces by intersecting materials and endnodes, will win the Dark Force prize if they score higher than the best light solution.
We are IMOing so i would have given Ikerous, a PM before the end of the comp to clarify light or dark. If light then i would have told him that under the circumstances i.e similar entry but without dowts light, he would have to re submit a light solution .IMO
So the best way forward for a situation like this,has to be level makers decision is final.