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ARF A CXIII contest results

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 6:50 pm
by Cresta
Here the results:

:lms: to unw, that scored 2834

no dark medals!

Ps: tra l'altro questa ? la prima volta che riesco a migliorare una soluzione di unw, di solito sono sempre perfette...! 4 $ risparmiati :P

Following zip and rar files:

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:01 pm
by FF
Unw's solution is dark.
It is not obvious, but still.

arm of force of the left part of construction is greater than the arm of force of right part. Think about it.

2 Unw:
Ну согласись что в реальности такая штука в принципе невозможна. Плечо силы у правой фиговины меньше чем у левой(относительно точки подвеса) соответственно не может такая хрень мячик поднимать.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:10 pm
by Ikerous
"arm of force of the left part of construction is greater than the arm of force of right part. Think about it. "
What?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:11 pm
by FF
Ikerous wrote:"arm of force of the left part of construction is greater than the arm of force of right part. Think about it. "
What?

My english sux. I will ask someone to translate my moonspeach.
EDIT: Cant find anyone english-speaking now. I will say what I want tommorow. But anyway unw is the winner. So it is just theoretical discussion.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:28 pm
by Unw
personally i agree with FF

i don't mind taking dark medal

the final decision is up to Cresta though

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:30 pm
by McGinge
Its not theoretical because if unw's solution is light then FF hosts the next contest...

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:34 pm
by NickyNick
Unw's solution is dark.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:37 pm
by Overlord
FF wrote:не может такая хрень мячик поднимать.


I understood and laughed at this part :lol:

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:37 pm
by Ikerous
I'm not seeing it. Someone explain..

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:49 pm
by Cresta
FF wrote:arm of force of the left part of construction is greater than the arm of force of right part. Think about it.


I can't understand this point!
Archimede would have screamed hearing it!!!!
If the force applied on the power arm (the one at the right) is > than (the force on the resistance) * (arm of resistance) / (arm of power) the lever works, the lenght of the arm doesn't matter.......

Your is not a valid point, if you noticed any interlace providing force just indicate it...

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:55 pm
by smjjames
I used google translator and babelfish, then looked at the level he submitted. He basically means that in reality the left side would be heavier and for it to work that way without something else pulling on it or the right side actually bieng made of heavier materials, it would have to break the laws of physics.

In short, that piece wouldn't work as it is in the real world. By arm of force (translated as shoulder sometimes), I guess he meant the fulcrum or something. Don't know what figoviny фиговины means though as the translator couldn't seem to do it.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:56 pm
by smjjames
delayed post lol. Anyways, I think I got it figured out. Arm of force has something to do with the fulcrum I guess.

lol, what the? you two deleted your posts after I had posted first but before I made this one.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:57 pm
by FF
smjjames wrote:I used google translator and babelfish, then looked at the level he submitted. He basically means that in reality the left side would be heavier and for it to work that way without something else pulling on it or the right side actually bieng made of heavier materials, it would have to break the laws of physics.

In short, that piece wouldn't work as it is in the real world. By arm of force (translated as shoulder sometimes), I guess he meant the fulcrum or something. Don't know what figoviny фиговины means though as the translator couldn't seeem to do it.


I will make a picture of it. One moment.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:04 pm
by Unw
Anyways, dillo's weight is approximately equal to the weight of two bars at max length.
Even if we take that the length of right and left shoulder is same, dillo+rope+cloth weighs more than two bars.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:06 pm
by JustcallmeDrago
Yeah unw you should be banned for that :lol:

JUST KIDDING :twisted: