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I agree with you totally... I didnt want this whole thing to have medal prefixes, avatars etc; just some kind of incentive for creative newbs who can never get a good scoer but have actually utilised the level really well. And yeah Overlords thing is pretty damn cool!! All it needs is a copy into ur sig along with the number you have won, and its done... I might start my own "i-created-the-idea-and-just-want-something-simple" clan! Whos with me??
JonathanF wrote:I don't want to become a part of this discussions but there are a few things I had to point out:
First of all, I am opposed to the creativity medal but if I had any talent for painting I would've helped designing the medals just in case. I can't see then why you think Overlord supports the idea only because he helped designing the icons.
Secondly, There are the two lists of the "for" and "against" and I think that you guys should not only check the number of the voters but there are also other perimeters to be checked::!: "Veteranity" of members:
Ikerous, Dec 2006
JonathanF, Jan 2007
Tomo, Feb 2007
Overlord, Jan 2007
Luka, Sep 2006
DrRoy, Oct 2006
NickyNick, Dec 2006
McGinge, May 2007
TShultz, Jul 2007
Scimaster, Apr 2007
Gamma57, May 2007
jimbojetuk, Jul 2007
Involvement in the forum (top-posters)
Ikerous, 5th
JonathanF, 12th
Tomo, 8th
Overlord, 14th
Luka, 6th
NickyNick, 2nd
McGinge, 4th
TShultz, 41st
Scimaster, 21st
Gamma57, 22nd
jimbojetuk, 37th
(Not to mention that half of these guys' posts are connected to the creativity medal )
Using this forum in the name of playing AR (medals and rank)
Ikerous, 17, 6th
JonathanF, 17, 5th
Tomo, 2, 38th
Overlord, 4, 21st
Luka, 21, 4th
DrRoy, 3, 31st
NickyNick, 41, 1st
(Also, I have read somewhere that ioncorpse is opposed to the creativity medals and I'm pretty sure that Unw is opposed to them based on his characters and posts, so that means all of the top players are opposed to it)
McGinge, 6, 17th
TShultz, 3, 30th
Scimaster, -
Gamma57, 6, 16th
jimbojetuk, -
JonathanF wrote:-Suppose a creativity medal is given only in special occasions when someone has invented something new like the 1st metal bar pulley, 1st force launcher, 1st "Uber Force" etc... If these "inventions" aren't the cheapest there is no good in using them again and therefore don't deserve a "creativity medal". If they are really cheap and original they have probably won the level and therefore don't need a creativity medal
NickyNick wrote:Lol. Creativty Medals system turned to "do-it-with-your-signature" stuff
That is a great point! I found out becoming a veteran kind of sucks now.NickyNick wrote:
Let me say. As I see (and you just said), Creativity Medal's main idea is to prevent talented newbie players from being scared with skilled and experienced veterans, and to leave them chance for getting medal (and gaining experience, too!).
Earlier, we tried to solve this problem with setting up "N" League - series of non-veteran contests. I think that "N" League made the whole situation much better. As far as I know, all (with very few exceptions) new players start there, and gain their first medals in competition with equal opponents. So, creating of "N" League made big step in solving our problem.
But, anyway, the problem hasn't gone. After turning to the "Contest Veteran" rank, most of newbies don't get much experience for fighting with "top" players, who rule in "A", "B" and "C" Leagues.
NickyNick wrote:
I think, that the whole system needs to be changed. When I was novice, Orjan Flatseth was at top of the ranking with 9 or 10 medals. I thought that it wasn't too big for reaching, so I had real stimulus to play - my goal was to become Champion of Light and #1 of the Rank.
What we can see now? Newbie needs to get 41 medals for #1, 29 for #2, etc. It seems unreal. From other side, I have no stimulus too (except the Armadeus rank - gonna get that 10th dark medal soon), because #2 of the Rank needs to get more than 10 medals to reach me.
Long time ago I proposed solution of this problem - to set up AR Seasons system. Each season will have duration of 3 months, or something like that - maybe, 30 contests. In the beginning of each season, all medals should be cleared, so everyone start with 0 points (results of previous seasons should be saved somewhere, so we can determine winners of each season). This will make the battle much more interesting, and newbies will have chance to gain the leadership in the Rank.
Here are my thoughts.
JonathanF wrote:Drago, you're not in the list because I copy-and-pasted your list from your message lol.
JonathanF wrote:Nick and I have discussed the whole ranking system and we have a few thoughts and ideas, and whenever we finish discussing it we'll create a new thread were you can and should post your thoughts regarding it.
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