AR2.1.2 A 069 Stereo (Till 15/05/2010 @ 16.00 GMT)

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AR2.1.2 A 069 Stereo (Till 15/05/2010 @ 16.00 GMT)

Postby Votart Silak » Wed May 12, 2010 3:52 am

Welcome to the 69th AR2 A contest: Stereo

AR2 Version 2.1.2 Beta is used, make sure you use the correct version.
If you download this level please submit your solution even if you think it's not good. You help us keep the forum alive and we might be able to help you become a better player.

Prices are changed.

Submissions by PM.

Naming convention [DollarsRemaining]-[YourForumName]-[SolutionName]

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Good luck :D
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Re: AR2.1.2 A 069 Stereo (Till 15/05/2010 @ 16.00 GMT)

Postby sendai45 » Wed May 12, 2010 5:27 am

Let's start at something nice and reasonable... say, $1400+ :lms: ?
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Re: AR2.1.2 A 069 Stereo (Till 15/05/2010 @ 16.00 GMT)

Postby DaveLloyd180 » Wed May 12, 2010 2:44 pm

And that's "A" League is it?
After the villification that Mark got - and the ensuing comments - I'm more confused now than ever.
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Re: AR2.1.2 A 069 Stereo (Till 15/05/2010 @ 16.00 GMT)

Postby sendai45 » Wed May 12, 2010 4:25 pm

It's really not that hard. :D Try using a bit of tensioned rubber to bounce the small dillos off of the big one, and see what you can work out!
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Re: AR2.1.2 A 069 Stereo (Till 15/05/2010 @ 16.00 GMT)

Postby Votart Silak » Wed May 12, 2010 4:47 pm

sendai45 wrote:Try using a bit of tensioned rubber to bounce the small dillos off of the big one, and see what you can work out!

Bingo! It's easy :lol:
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Re: AR2.1.2 A 069 Stereo (Till 15/05/2010 @ 16.00 GMT)

Postby markmadras » Wed May 12, 2010 5:07 pm

1450+ :lms: :D
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Re: AR2.1.2 A 069 Stereo (Till 15/05/2010 @ 16.00 GMT)

Postby Andrew » Thu May 13, 2010 3:57 am

1500+

And I thought our level was a tweakathon, this takes things to the extreme...
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Re: AR2.1.2 A 069 Stereo (Till 15/05/2010 @ 16.00 GMT)

Postby markmadras » Thu May 13, 2010 7:21 am

1550+ :lms: :D
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Re: AR2.1.2 A 069 Stereo (Till 15/05/2010 @ 16.00 GMT)

Postby DaveLloyd180 » Thu May 13, 2010 4:03 pm

I agree. It's not hard. (I never 'intended to' suggest it was)
(Just found it was Vankwish that raised the issue of what is "A" or "B" League on Mark's last "AR1" design.)
Not surprisingly Vank' hasn't entered this level as far as I know :!:

I'm not complaining - I'm just confused.

Andrew's level "Gunfight On The Moon" was also easy - but yes, could be tweaked to death.
I maintain that something should be instigated to define what is "A" and what is "B"

"A" should have no rule changes - "B" should have rule changes ... whatever.
To me it's currently nonsense - there is NO definition between "A" and "B" apart from arbitrary Creator's thoughts on how the level may be solved.

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Re: AR2.1.2 A 069 Stereo (Till 15/05/2010 @ 16.00 GMT)

Postby markmadras » Thu May 13, 2010 6:30 pm

Dave, I have opened a new topic to continue this discussion, you may find my reply interesting :D .

Bids are a little slow here, come along chaps :D :D :D
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Re: AR2.1.2 A 069 Stereo (Till 15/05/2010 @ 16.00 GMT)

Postby rob » Fri May 14, 2010 12:13 am

Took a shot at this one, 1600+ :lms: :D
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Re: AR2.1.2 A 069 Stereo (Till 15/05/2010 @ 16.00 GMT)

Postby markmadras » Fri May 14, 2010 9:58 am

OK, 1630+ :lms: :D
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Re: AR2.1.2 A 069 Stereo (Till 15/05/2010 @ 16.00 GMT)

Postby V4nKw15h » Fri May 14, 2010 10:37 am

DaveLloyd180 wrote:Not surprisingly Vank' hasn't entered this level as far as I know :!:


I did have a play around with it. I got a nice launch for both dillos, and built a structure that could catch them. The top one was catching after just 20 minutes.

However the bottom one kept making my tower collapse and by the time I'd tweak the catch the top one wasn't catching.

I then tried tweaking things and after about an hour I'd had enough of the randomness. I would have continued if I thought I was already onto the winning solution, but I was only building my first POC. Needing to spend 30+ minutes to get everything working again after every tweak meant I was ruled out due to time constraints again.

Incidentally, my POC would have been 1650+ and with tweaking I suspect closer to 1700. To get to 1700 would likely have taken many many hours and most of it wasted on randomness.

My suggestion to make A leagues simpler and faster to tweak was just a suggestion. I'll make a more thorough comment in the other thread for this subject.

Edit: Maybe if this level only had one dillo I would have had time to compete, but having two that both interacted with a single unstable structure was too much for my limited time.

Nice, interesting level design though.
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Re: AR2.1.2 A 069 Stereo (Till 15/05/2010 @ 16.00 GMT)

Postby rob » Fri May 14, 2010 11:58 am

hmmm, only 1625 :( I'll see what I can do.
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Re: AR2.1.2 A 069 Stereo (Till 15/05/2010 @ 16.00 GMT)

Postby rob » Fri May 14, 2010 4:13 pm

OK, 1635+ :lms: :D
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